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Post by pictures dont lie on Aug 31, 2005 20:24:57 GMT -5
nice to see the falcons had 27 players at their camp, shouldn't be too hard to make the neccessary cuts seeing as they have a month to make the four
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Post by watch out on Aug 31, 2005 20:35:19 GMT -5
Who did they cut so far? I'm guessing Corey Miller was one. Even with 23 on their roster, many of those kids aren't going to see much ice! Hopefully, they won't learn the hard way. Being a healthy scratch isn't fun. Ask Josh Moes what he thinks of Mr. Cole. (Drafted this year and going to Sault st. Marie)
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Post by In the know on Sept 1, 2005 7:34:11 GMT -5
Good luck Josh. Make sure you work hard because you won't see ice in the sue either..
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Post by in the know2 on Sept 1, 2005 9:01:45 GMT -5
that was a gutless comment
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Post by In the know on Sept 1, 2005 9:43:55 GMT -5
Not gutless comment...I was just saying good luck to Josh...And to work hard because reallity is you don't see much ice in the O in your first year...So again Good Luck Josh and work hard.
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Post by Make up your mind on Sept 1, 2005 12:12:47 GMT -5
It looks like the Falcons will have 10-12 local boys on the team this year. Tell me what other CONTENDING team in this league can match that.
And why is ok for St. Cath. kids to go to other centres and knock out their local boys but its not ok for kids from other centres to come to St. Cath and knock out their so called local talent.
It sounds to me like a lot of dad's who think they have the next Crosby are getting a rude awakening when Mr. Cole says, sorry kid , you just don't cut it.
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Post by man on Sept 1, 2005 12:29:11 GMT -5
Cole will cut alot of guys who go on to play in the o or jr.a because they wont buy into his bull, at least 2 or 3 of his cuts will play jr.a this year.
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Post by Curious on Sept 1, 2005 12:45:22 GMT -5
And who might that be? The 2 or three that will play Jr A
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Post by the truth on Sept 1, 2005 12:59:48 GMT -5
who the hell cares if your team has any local players or not, who gives a (edit) where the kids from, all that should matter is how good they are, thats it. figure out why st.kitts hasn't been any good since 1999, they are so (edit) hung up on locals, figure it out people money wins in junior hockey nothing else, and the teams that can spend money and bring imports in wins leagues, case in point the canucks who are annually in the finals and the thorold blackhawks who have a bunch of championships. why do ya think they win they have money and imports and spend there money wisely and not on so-so local talent. Blinkhorn and Dahms and also chad mccaffrey, clay mcfadden, matt maccarone, rylan young and the rest of the canucks most talented players are all imports, figure it out money wins, nobody gives a (edit) if your local or not who cares. Look at all the successful tier II teams , like the Georgetown Raiders or St.Mikes or Port Hope Predators who a few years ago were a last place team with a bunch of local players now they are a winning team with no locals on their roster at all and are a whole lot better off now then they were, as a winning team with a good fan base and a team of imports. Figure it out people, sports is cruel and most of the time teams just do not win with locals, money wins leagues, and nobody cares how many locals ya got, if they are good enough then i agree defiently take em but if you can find a better import boot them out whoever is a better player you take regardless where they are from.
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Post by observer on Sept 1, 2005 13:02:21 GMT -5
I've been watching this thread for the last few days. I'm sure that most of the negatives regarding local players are coming from either disgruntled parents or players. What all of you fail to understand is that the Falcons are in a no-win situation. If they keep all locals, they lose, no fans come out and they go bankrupt. If they mix the best local talent with some imports they can win, fill the seats, break even and hopefully in the future with the revamped developmental program that's in place with SCMH (Falcons now) the team can be primarily made up of local kids. The unfortunate reality is that at this time the cupboard is only half full with local kids. Mr. Cole has a plan and if he and his team sticks with it and don't cave in to all the "know it alls" that seem to be around, the Falcon Ogranization as well as SCMH will be very strong in the future. Get it?
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Post by oldtimer on Sept 1, 2005 13:04:34 GMT -5
Sounds very much like another disgruntled hockey Dad. Bottom line if they can play they will be there. We are the players being pushed to the next level before they are ready.
Just alot of Dads trying to live teir dream through their kid.
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Post by agreed on Sept 1, 2005 13:07:27 GMT -5
i completely agree with you, st.kitts fans brag about having a team with a bunch of locals on it and saying things like "i bet other teams don't have that many locals" , well that is the downfall of their GM who does not budget or scout for his players well enough that he can bring in many imports to st.kitts over there loosing hump that they have been in for half a decade. Having a team made up of local players, more often than not does not get you anywhere, of course there are some rare exceptions like last years blackhawks having risi and some other thoroldites on the team, but i see no local's in st.kitts that have such an impact with the exception of chiemlewski. i completely agree with that last post and feel that until GM cole realizes what wins he will continue to keep st.kitts as a non championship team, because its true money and imports wins in junior hockey.
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Post by observer on Sept 1, 2005 13:11:04 GMT -5
I think you are missing the point here "agreed". Mr Cole has been and is following your logic. He and his team probably did more scouting than anybody this summer. The 2005-06 Falcons will the best team in years with a good mix of locals and imports.
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Post by huh on Sept 1, 2005 13:52:49 GMT -5
Cole can't scout? Last year, the Falcons only had 4 returning players. Usually, that's a last place team. But Cole must have managed to recruit some pretty good players since the Falcons ended up in third.
This year he has brought in Petriello, Heywood and Stevenson, all great players, in addition to keeping Blinkhorn, Dahms, Wong and Shaw (As mentioned in an earlier post they have 3 new defencemen but I have no idea who they are or the quality of those players)
No team has all imports. No one has the budget for that. But it's not the quantity of imports though, its the quality. Most championship teams are not made up of mainly imports. Instead, they have 6-10 good to great imports with the rest being local talent.
As a Falcon Fan, I am totally happy with their direction and I believe Cole will assemble (like he did last year) the best team possible. They are importing more than ever now to keep up with Thorold and Niagara Falls but at the same time, like Thorold and Niagara Falls, they also need to have quality local players as well.
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Post by Make up your mind on Sept 1, 2005 14:05:25 GMT -5
Good, now it seems we're all on the same page. To those who are not happy with the way the Falcons are being run, get your release and go play elsewhere.
To Mr. Cole and the rest of the Falcon staff and executive, keep up the good work. Last year there was big improvements, can't wait to see how much better we'll be this year.
Do whatever is required to put the best possible team on the ice and we'll be there to support you. It's about time that the best team in the Shoe returned to it's rightfull spot....#1
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Post by News on Sept 2, 2005 11:11:04 GMT -5
Article in todays Standards,..Falcon's team is set..
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Post by jack on Sept 2, 2005 12:03:50 GMT -5
Lol try getting your release. The only way to leave is by paying your way out.
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Post by Wrong on Sept 2, 2005 12:06:14 GMT -5
Not true ..If you don't make the team they have to release you Jack..Lots of players are playing on other teams...
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Post by Right on Sept 2, 2005 12:37:30 GMT -5
Not true Wrong, I know of at least 3 kids who could not get their release because the falcons wanted too much money for it.
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Post by Right on Sept 2, 2005 12:43:02 GMT -5
If the Falcon's cut them and you think they want too much money for them you can appeal to the OHA and will have it lowered ...But i think there is a price for the realease of any player that does not make your team..I would be interested in who these three kids were that can't get the release....If they are good enough to make a team in the GHL im sure that team can pay the $500 fee..Please name the players and teams that want them and maybe we can do something for them//
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Post by Jr B fan on Sept 2, 2005 13:32:16 GMT -5
Interesting article in today's Standard. It talks about the Falcon's having 24 on their roster. Do they not only have 23 roster spots like every other Jr. B. team? Somebody has to go!
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Post by GHL Fan on Sept 2, 2005 14:15:54 GMT -5
Interesting. You don't hear all this bickering among Niagara Falls and Thorold fans. It just goes on and on in Falconland. Its pretty pathetic to read the Falcons' posts. Other centers just put the best team on the ice no matter where the kid is from. That wins Sutherland Cups as proven last year.
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Post by oldtimer on Sept 2, 2005 14:30:43 GMT -5
Once again a misinformed forum participant passing on false information. No player has been refused a release by the Falcons asking for too much money. The GM has repeatedly said that by the Falcons picking the team early players can get settled into school and other players not making the team but perhaps good enough to play in the league can go an win a spot elsewhere pl before all the teams are full. Sounds like a fair and sensible approach to me.
Maybe all the people whining about release fees are once again the players or the parents of the marginal or borderline player and need to realize that if a team won't part with a fee normally a couple hundred to five hundred dollars maybe the player needs more development time at the lower level.
Hockey Canada is mandating huge changes that encorages players to play midget hockey.
Fathers need not pay for their son's releases to rush them into junior hockey. Hockey Canada and the OHA are attempting to get the fee structure in line.
How much did Bellows get traded for? Embarrasing!
Good luck to Ryan at school, another victim of the system.
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Post by Mr Hockey on Sept 2, 2005 15:00:21 GMT -5
Interesting article in today's Standard. It talks about the Falcon's having 24 on their roster. Do they not only have 23 roster spots like every other Jr. B. team? Somebody has to go! Every team has 30 cards I believe. Teams need to trim down their roster however by certain dates. I think they need to go down to 25 by Christmas and then 23 by at the end of January. Most teams will start off by having 24-26 players. |
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Post by Be Careful on Sept 2, 2005 15:08:15 GMT -5
But the reality is, somebody has to go! Now or January 10th! If you carry more than 23 going into the season, somebody could be left without a team to play for. That is definitely not in the best interest of the players!
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Post by mix on Sept 2, 2005 17:01:20 GMT -5
as was stated many times before you have to have a mix of locals and imports. bring in the sniper from afar and yes pay for it. money and imports do help BUT YOU HAVE TO have some local kids. especially fourth liners for the future to groom. you are only allowed 7 imports.
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Post by get beyond it on Sept 2, 2005 18:01:20 GMT -5
too many newcomers talking about something which they know not
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