Jr. B or Teir 2 Jr. A

[dogpound]

Just wanted to know what other people thought was better... lets hear some opinions.

[legendz61]

clearly jr a is better. why would so many players just up and leave there respected teams to go and play jr a? some people will say money or better offers? but think some jr a teams cant even compare to st catherines niagara falls and thorold. people say you will get looked at more by american schools playing just over the boarder. not true its just how your team recruits scouts to your games. just my opinion as i played both jr a and jr b.

[frenchman]

Jr.A is better in every way except the amount of teams. Its a more serious league, more recruiting, more travel,competition for ontario title and national championship. Over 40 scholarships a year..1-5 players drafted annually in the NHL. Maybe the top two teams in Jr.A would be good but big drop off after that.

[loyalfan]

After visiting recent prospects tourny(over 600 players) in T.O. all U.S. College staff stated that the most important thing to look for is the organizations ability to prepare a hockey player and not the leauge itself. Most coaching and scouting staff would not commit to picking a league. At least one coach mentioned there were many good players in Teir 2 but that it was watered down. The same gentleman mentioned that the Mid Western Jr B league appeared to be weaker this year compared to the Golden and Western league.

The number of Teir 2 teams is fairly close to the 3 Jr B Leagues. I wonder how the top few teams in the Jr B Loop would fair against the top few teams in the Teir 2 divisions

Players will be found wherever they play....especially if they are happy in their environment.

[panther692006]

come on tier 2 and jr b are the same level it just name and a national title look at all them years when tier 2 teams were in jr b

[frenchman]

Let the numbers talk.. OPJHL=48 division 1 committments, GHL=2? Levielle and Sheahan? Thorold top team in jr.b this season, 0 scholarships, Oakville top in jr.a 6, what gives?

[gunnerstahl]

frenchman, there is no denying that the provincial league provides superior exposure. part of the reason for that is that most clubs in the GHL do little or nothing to promote their players. another reason is because the amount of players in the GHL that have OHL experience, thus making them ineligible for NCAA play. As far as talent, GHL would be equivilant to most OPJHL teams aside from the top teams. If this wasn't true, why would the OPJHL be recruiting so many of the leagues players?

[Gameface]

Couple of good points frenchman and Gunnerstahl.

Which league provides the players with the best opportunities in line with what the players needs are. Its not always what the parents, coaches and owners think is best. A player may choose based on more ice time / better or different coaching / more scouts or simply hockey with friends, it should and most of the time comes down to the kids and their choices. I believe the OHA considers the Provincial League a step up for advancing players, other wise we wouldn't have the divisions referred to as A, B and then Junior C , as the OHA list the division top to bottom on their site. Its also not comforting hearing the GHL referred to as the graveyard league which is bound to have players consider their next move.

[jbottle]

There is no comparison, Tier II is better hands down. Yes teams like Niagara Falls, who have deep pockets can attrack players because they pay them good money. Otherwise they would be in Tier II.

"As far as talent, GHL would be equivilant to most OPJHL teams aside from the top teams".
I guess, under your assessment, the Chicago Wolves or Wilks Penguins, the two teams fighting for the Calder Cup in the AHL, are better than the LA Kings, or Tampa Bay Lightning.
RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!

[icedog]

frenchman - You can tell you don't know what you are talking about. You mentioned Thorold had no scholarships this year. You are totally wrong. I know for a fact they had a few scholarships. That is just Thorold, not to mention the other teams in Jr B. So don't come on here misrepresenting the league if you don't know the facts. If you don't know the facts, keep your mouth shut.

[legendz61]

who received the scholorship?

[gunnerstahl]

defelice has an offer to go to RIT and i heard some other players but i don't know which schools so i won't say the names

[icedog]

Scarsella and Durham both were offered and accepted scholarships. A couple of others were offered scholarships but declined due to other commitments. A couple of younger players were offered scholarships but still have a couple of years left in junior and have decided to stay back for another year or to finish of their junior careers. Just to name a few.

[frenchman]

D3 doesnt count for much, you look and watch every tier 2 team has a bout 4 or 5 guys who go play d3 or canadian university... as for the others, not many decline real scholarships and offers arnt worth a cent until you sin the letter of intent..you can always defer a scholarship a year to come back, most teams allow that also..

[Gameface]

Frenchman is right , icedog eat your nasty words ( "keep your mouth shut" ). There is nothing wrong with giving an opinion on here, I just hate people who come on try and shut down others opinions with personal attacks. Glad to see frenchman maintain his class

[icedog]

Gameface - It is one thing to come on here and give an opinion and then it is another to say something when you don't know the facts such as he did. That is why I said what I said. So I stand by what I said. Unless you know the facts, don't go shooting off your mouth. In my opinion he is personally attacking the GHL. You can say what you want about the OPJHL but don't go bashing the GHL. Especially if you don't know the facts.

[tool]

the GHL will be a division of the OPJHL within two years
that is my prediction