Thursdays game in Barrie

[back2back]

Anyone know if this game is televised on channel 10. Also will any of the injured players be back?

[jrbfan]

The game is scheduled to be on the OHL Action Pack, and as the last Barrie game was also broadcast here on Cogeco, I would think that Thursday's will be as well.

I read somewhere on the NOOF that it's possible that Pietrangelo could be back. The D sure could use him as a warm body but more importantly as someone to start the rush out of the zone.

[coldpooch]

jrbfan said:

The game is scheduled to be on the OHL Action Pack, and as the last Barrie game was also broadcast here on Cogeco, I would think that Thursday's will be as well.

I read somewhere on the NOOF that it's possible that Pietrangelo could be back. The D sure could use him as a warm body but more importantly as someone to start the rush out of the zone.

They do not need that at all. EVERY ONE is doing it, Please just stay back and play D.

[fishfan51]

They can certainly use some help on "D". Scheistel is absolutely terrible. He blew the game for the Dogs against Windsor on Sunday single handed. It was his man on both goals in the last five minutes.

Josh Day has been the best D-man all season. IMO they need Corrente back and playing to his abilities in a bad way. If they don't start playing smarter in their own end they could be just a .500 team at the end of this road trip.

[jrbfan]

I agree that many are trying to rush the puck coldpooch, and for the most part not very successfully. That's the problem, they need somebody to be able to properly begin the rush, either with a good first pass or by moving it up himself.

Pietrangelo has demonstrated that he can do both very well. He is very calm back there, doesn't panic, and is very creative while seeing the whole ice. His downside, IMHO, is that he once in a while can cough it up because he is so confident. I'm ok with his rare lapses, cause he can usually recover with his speed, and this is the place (OHL) to try stuff out and perfect your game (not the NHL).

[Kevin]

back2back said:

Anyone know if this game is televised on channel 10. Also will any of the injured players be back?

From the Cogeco Niagara Website:

The Niagara IceDogs Are Back On TVCOGECO Live Thursday Night!

The Niagara IceDogs visit The Barrie Colts Thursday night and you can see that game live starting at 7:30 PM. Future live games on TVCOGECO:

IceDogs Visit The Owen Sound Platers - Saturday November 17th at 7:30 PM.

IceDogs Visit The Oshawa Generals - Sunday November 18th, airing taped delay at 9:00 PM.

[back2back]

I'm hearing that the Dogs should have a couple guys back, perhaps Legein and Pieterangelo.

[coldpooch]

back2back said:

I'm hearing that the Dogs should have a couple guys back, perhaps Legein and Pieterangelo.

BAD News.

Rumour is they will be out for some time.

[dogman]

First of all, did anyone watch this game on Cogeco. What was up with the camera work on the shoot outs. They zoomed in on the shooter and you could not even see the goalie or the net. When the player shot, you had no idea whether it went in or not. I realize that this has nothing to do with Cogeco as it is a Rogers broadcast.

Second, why does Cogeco cut away from the broadcast so soon after it ends. We did not even get a chance to see the post game interviews. I can understand Cogeco doing this if they have another program scheduled, like last week when they had the Regional Council meeting on. But last night they cut away early to return us the the regular screen with weather, ticker, time etc. Certainly they could have waited until after the interviews, assuming there was a pre-game show. Anyways I'm not complaining as I am glad they are showing the games (I was going to switch to satellite but because of the games I'm staying with Cogeco) but I wish they would also show the post game show when they can.

As for the game, where was Snow and Traccittu (sp?). Also, why did Schiestel shoot first in the shoot out. He is a stay at home defenceman, not a scorer. And why was Caputi shooting last. Sometimes the last shooter doesn't even get to shoot.

[jrbfan]

I couldn't agree more about the camera angle during the shootout. I was yelling at the TV to pan back!

As far as Snow goes, I hear he skated during the warm-ups, and Tracitto was back in Niagara, too sick to make the trip.

I was guessing the three Dogs to shoot would have been Caputi, Swift and Agozzino, probably in that order, but low and behold we get Schiestel shooting first, with Caputi last! I don't understand that one???

At least good to get a point away from home. Hope we can come back home at least .500 from this 4 game road trip...

[fishfan51]

coldpooch said:

Maybe the reason is he has never missed a shootout.

Or the reason maybe that he is so horrible in his own end that the coach thought he may do some thing in the offensive zone. Not only did he miss the in the shootout...he missed the NET by three feet.

He lost the game for the Dogs single handed VS Windsor last week when on both the tying and winning goals it was his man who buried the goals while he stood there covering nobody.

He was on the ice again for 3 of the 4 goals against Barrie Thursday night including a giveaway right on the stick up the middle that Nikiforov promptly one timed into the back of the net. And it was Schiestel that Nikiforov turned inside out earlier for the Colts first goal.

In all honesty, Schiestel has some offensive abilities...but defensively he is atrocious. He doesn't play the body, he doesn't position himself well, and he certainly doesn't anticipate where his guy or the puck is going well at all. I can't tell you how many times I have seen him come to the bench and break his stick after blowing a play in his own end after causing a goal this season.

Besides rookie Maione at -3, Schiestel is the only minus "D" man on the team. I can't wait for Petro, Fletch, and Corrente to get back just so Scheistel won't get as much ice and in turn won't cause as many goals.

[coldpooch]

fishfan51 said:

coldpooch said:

Maybe the reason is he has never missed a shootout.

Or the reason maybe that he is so horrible in his own end that the coach thought he may do some thing in the offensive zone. Not only did he miss the in the shootout...he missed the NET by three feet.

He lost the game for the Dogs single handed VS Windsor last week when on both the tying and winning goals it was his man who buried the goals while he stood there covering nobody.

He was on the ice again for 3 of the 4 goals against Barrie Thursday night including a giveaway right on the stick up the middle that Nikiforov promptly one timed into the back of the net. And it was Schiestel that Nikiforov turned inside out earlier for the Colts first goal.

In all honesty, Schiestel has some offensive abilities...but defensively he is atrocious. He doesn't play the body, he doesn't position himself well, and he certainly doesn't anticipate where his guy or the puck is going well at all. I can't tell you how many times I have seen him come to the bench and break his stick after blowing a play in his own end after causing a goal this season.

Besides rookie Maione at -3, Schiestel is the only minus "D" man on the team. I can't wait for Petro, Fletch, and Corrente to get back just so Scheistel won't get as much ice and in turn won't cause as many goals.

Drew Doughty, (-12)
Del Zotto, (-2)
Zach Bogosian, (-9)
Wilson, (-2)

Here is a quote from the Ottawa game. QUOTE "Doughty appeared to be benched after his last give away (one of many) and I would have personally benched Martine as well until he started taking the man instead of trying to line somebody up for the big hit shift after shift.

A little disappointed by the game, I was hoping for more of a game and more of a showcase on Doughty. A very forgettable game." UN-Quote.

This is not to single out DD but just to highlight the fact that all fans see different things. U say Tomato and I say Tomato.

I also follow +/- but others do not take any stock in them.

By the way, aren't you the so called fan that Ripped into Day earlier on? "I" told you he was a fine D-Man, you're excused.

The bottom line is, as fans our opinions mean nothing to any coach.

[fishfan51]

coldpooch said:

Drew Doughty, (-12)
Del Zotto, (-2)
Zach Bogosian, (-9)
Wilson, (-2)

Here is a quote from the Ottawa game. QUOTE "Doughty appeared to be benched after his last give away (one of many) and I would have personally benched Martine as well until he started taking the man instead of trying to line somebody up for the big hit shift after shift.

A little disappointed by the game, I was hoping for more of a game and more of a showcase on Doughty. A very forgettable game." UN-Quote.

This is not to single out DD but just to highlight the fact that all fans see different things. U say Tomato and I say Tomato.

I also follow +/- but others do not take any stock in them.

By the way, aren't you the so called fan that Ripped into Day earlier on? "I" told you he was a fine D-Man, you're excused.

The bottom line is, as fans our opinions mean nothing to any coach.

I don't get the point you are trying to make. By listing a bunch of players that have been under achieving this season i.e. DD and Del Zotto. Are you trying to compare numbers to other players that are struggling? It is well known that Del Zotto has been playing horribly this year it's been said by scouts, fans around the league, and Oshawa fans alike. I guess by comparison to Scheistel you are right they have BOTH been playing HORRIBLE. Thanks for making my point.

You are right on another point as well... I did rip Day when he was playing terrible. He has been playing terrific hockey for a while now. He has been the steadiest and most consistent "D" man on the team. But that's the difference, I don't have blinders on. If a player or the team is playing poorly, I will say they are playing poorly. If a player or the team is playing great, I'll tell you they are playing great. That doesn't make me less of a fan. That means I say it like I see it.

Since I own 5 season tickets, a team hat, jersey, car flag and have driven to Brampton, Mississauga, Barrie and hoping to make the trek to Oshawa tomorrow night, have yet to miss a home game in person including preseason, paid to watch the games in Plymouth and Saginaw on OHL "Live Stream" and bought the OHL Action Pak to watch OHL games from around the league, I dismiss your challenge of my fan hood.

You keep the blinders on and I'll keep telling it like I see it. Just because everyone doesn't sugar coat it, it doesn't mean they aren't "real fans".

[coldpooch]

fishfan51 said:

coldpooch said:

Drew Doughty, (-12)
Del Zotto, (-2)
Zach Bogosian, (-9)
Wilson, (-2)

Here is a quote from the Ottawa game. QUOTE "Doughty appeared to be benched after his last give away (one of many) and I would have personally benched Martine as well until he started taking the man instead of trying to line somebody up for the big hit shift after shift.

A little disappointed by the game, I was hoping for more of a game and more of a showcase on Doughty. A very forgettable game." UN-Quote.

This is not to single out DD but just to highlight the fact that all fans see different things. U say Tomato and I say Tomato.

I also follow +/- but others do not take any stock in them.

By the way, aren't you the so called fan that Ripped into Day earlier on? "I" told you he was a fine D-Man, you're excused.

The bottom line is, as fans our opinions mean nothing to any coach.

I don't get the point you are trying to make. By listing a bunch of players that have been under achieving this season i.e. DD and Del Zotto. Are you trying to compare numbers to other players that are struggling? It is well known that Del Zotto has been playing horribly this year it's been said by scouts, fans around the league, and Oshawa fans alike. I guess by comparison to Scheistel you are right they have BOTH been playing HORRIBLE. Thanks for making my point.

You are right on another point as well... I did rip Day when he was playing terrible. He has been playing terrific hockey for a while now. He has been the steadiest and most consistent "D" man on the team. But that's the difference, I don't have blinders on. If a player or the team is playing poorly, I will say they are playing poorly. If a player or the team is playing great, I'll tell you they are playing great. That doesn't make me less of a fan. That means I say it like I see it.

Since I own 5 season tickets, a team hat, jersey, car flag and have driven to Brampton, Mississauga, Barrie and hoping to make the trek to Oshawa tomorrow night, have yet to miss a home game in person including preseason, paid to watch the games in Plymouth and Saginaw on OHL "Live Stream" and bought the OHL Action Pak to watch OHL games from around the league, I dismiss your challenge of my fan hood.

You keep the blinders on and I'll keep telling it like I see it. Just because everyone doesn't sugar coat it, it doesn't mean they aren't "real fans".

The first point I was trying to make is that the players I have singled out are all on the top of this years draft list. Yes I was trying to compare numbers.

Not only did you rip Day you called Petro nothing more than a ECHL player. You have been wrong on both points.

As for traveling to Missy and Barrie you must have noticed that the Player you are pointing out was the first and second star respectfully. So where is the praise there? You seem to be contradicting yourself on that one.

Not one player on any team can single handily cause a lose. What I see is to many rebounds, never winning a face off, too MANY penalties, no back checking, floating for the out pass, players not receiving breakout passes cleanly, forwards who cannot get the puck of the side boards and out at the blue line, Missing open nets, constantly doing rap-arounds when people are open, players banging sticks calling for passes, pouting, players getting multiple game suspensions, playing only one goalie and on and on.

With all of the players you have called horrible I personally would take stock in what Lindy Ruff says over you.

So my point is EVERYONE is responsible for the mess this team is in.

Listen I know you are frustrated so am I, but this is a long season and I have faith that they will play better.

[fishfan51]

Where/when did I say Petro was nothing more then an ECHL player? Either you have me confused with someone else or you are just making crap up. Find it and post it. I guarantee you won't find anything like that from me. I will then accept your apology.

I said Day was playing horrible and at the time he WAS. He is now playing VERY WELL! Scheistel is playing horribly defensively RIGHT NOW. If he turns it around I will give him credit for it.

[omhafan]

A couple of die hard Icedog fans frustrated right now. The team is not playing up to expectations this last month. Were Owens and Beljo that important to the team last year? This years team seams to have a hard time against bigger teams like Plymouth and Windsor. The smaller home arena doesn't seem to favour the team this year. Outsized in the corners and boards, losing the little battles for the puck.