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Post by dogman on Jun 13, 2007 21:39:57 GMT -5
A rumour is circulating in OHL circles that former IceDogs coach Mike Kelly could be headed to Owen Sound as their GM. It doesn't seem like Kelly stepping down as head coach to become an adviser to the owner was his choice, if he is interested in the GM job in Owen Sound.
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Post by sportscrazy on Jun 14, 2007 14:33:27 GMT -5
Wow, now its getting interesting. Its hard to speculate on what is going on, since we have not been following the team. Any Mississauga ICe Dogs fans out there care to fill us in?
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Post by dids13 on Jun 27, 2007 19:46:06 GMT -5
here It was believed that his replacement would have been hired prior to the import draft, but the Attack have been inundated with first-rate candidates. It was down to two possibilities - believed to be Attack assistant general manager Ken Cook and former Mississauga head coach Mike Kelly - before a third candidate surfaced at the NHL draft. www.owensoundsuntimes.com/webapp/sitepages/content.asp?contentid=587580&catname=Sports&classif=let me know if its a great move. get rid of dave brown of the icedogs |
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Post by rabiddog on Jun 27, 2007 19:57:37 GMT -5
Hey dids13 i will tell you right now that it is a fantastic move...and why get rid of dave brown of the icedogs??
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Post by dids13 on Jun 27, 2007 21:38:50 GMT -5
Bring Ken Cook back (Attack Assistant GM) as GM and Steve Ludzik as the coach because he is from Niagara.
or Cicchillo as GM and Ludzik as Coach.
Brown has to go hes a great Tier II Junior A GM and Coach but that is volunteer, this is the big times and he needs to go has he brought in the right tools for a memorial cup I dont think so, so if mr.burke you are listening get rid of brown, bring either cookie back and ludzik as coach with cicchillo as the assisstant GM or Cicchillo as GM and ludzik as coach.
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Post by dogman on Jun 27, 2007 21:46:46 GMT -5
I guess I can't really comment since I really don't have much knowledge of the Mississauga IceDogs. I will say that I know its the GM's job to recruit, and it would appear that the Niagara IceDogs are well stocked to make a run at the championship.
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Post by coldpooch on Jun 28, 2007 4:48:06 GMT -5
There isn't anything wrong with Having Brown as the GM.
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Post by rabiddog on Jun 28, 2007 16:40:28 GMT -5
Dids13 you sound bitter towards Dave Brown,,,what did he do to you?? Why would Cicchillo want to be a GM? Cicchillo is a coach not a mgmt guy. So because Ludzik is from Niagara he should be coach??? I wonder how many OHL coaches are from the city that they coach in?? I know Butler in Brampton is not from Brampton. Does it really matter where the coach is from? As long as he can coach and the team wins who cares where he is from. Dids13 do you really think Mr.Burke is going to listen to you on here...if you think Dave Brown can not do the job( which alot of people in the OHL say he can) then why dont you phone the IceDogs office and speak to Mr.Burke your self? and see what he has to say...but you wont do that will you?
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Post by jaskratch on Jun 28, 2007 22:14:00 GMT -5
dids13
You have no clue what you are talking about. Dave Brown has done an outstanding job rebuilding this team. Not only will they be one of the top teams in the Eastern Conference next year, Mr. Brown has put this team in a position to be extremely competitive for years to come. Dave Brown is one of the most respected people in the OHL among players, coaches and management and the IceDogs are fortunate to have him. Maybe you should talk to some of the other members of the IceDogs organization who know Dave Brown much better than you do before making such rediculous statements.
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Post by dids13 on Jun 30, 2007 10:52:37 GMT -5
Ludzik rebuilt the team when he was the GM and Head Coach for the 02 - 03 season, even bring him on as an assistant he has a lot of connections he is just like Mark Hunter with his philosophy on the game of hockey. There is no knock against Dave brown, I just believe that he can build a team but can they win?. They had a great team last yr and never made it past the first round, eh great team though put together by dave brown though. He was the GM of the Brampton Capitals also as a volunteer and Cicchillo was the Head Coach, and they won but I dont think they can win here, Greg Gilbert was a great coach but did they win it all, and dave brown was the GM and they lost. Brown builds it but they cant win in the playoffs, Brown needs to pick up a proven playoff player as an overager just like sarnia did and justlike plymouth had this yr.
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Post by rabiddog on Jun 30, 2007 17:19:01 GMT -5
Dids13.. Yes they had a good team last year and yes they did not make it past the 1st round,,but ask anyone who followed the team last year and everyone of them will tell you that the reason the were beat out by Sudbury had nothing to do with Dave Brown, it had to do more with some of the coaching decisions that were made by the head coach. And just to clear something else up for you. Dave Brown was only the GM of the IceDogs for 2 years now...the 2006-07 and the 2005-06(which everyone knew was a rebuilding year) in the 04-05 season the ex.owner Mario Forgione was the GM and he made all of the decisions,( Carcillo,Heicmovic--get my drift here)
I have no doubt that Ludzik is a good coach..but ask yourself this question,,,if he is so good how come the other OHL teams are not knocking down his door to coach their team?
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Post by jaskratch on Jul 2, 2007 8:37:30 GMT -5
Ludzik rebuilt the team when he was the GM and Head Coach for the 02 - 03 season, even bring him on as an assistant he has a lot of connections he is just like Mark Hunter with his philosophy on the game of hockey. There is no knock against Dave brown, I just believe that he can build a team but can they win?. They had a great team last yr and never made it past the first round, eh great team though put together by dave brown though. He was the GM of the Brampton Capitals also as a volunteer and Cicchillo was the Head Coach, and they won but I dont think they can win here, Greg Gilbert was a great coach but did they win it all, and dave brown was the GM and they lost. Brown builds it but they cant win in the playoffs, Brown needs to pick up a proven playoff player as an overager just like sarnia did and justlike plymouth had this yr. Ludzik didn't rebuild that team at all. He played the hell of the key pieces that were in place before he got there (O'Sullivan, Shremp, Jacina, Sisca) and squeeked into the playoffs on the last day of the seasons before getting knocked out in 5 games in the first round of the playoffs. Ludzik is a good hockey guy but if he's as good as you think he is why aren't teams knocking down his door to get him to come back? As for Dave Brown, he's done a very good job building this team through the draft. Unfortunately, the team had to endure awful coaching last season that finally caught up with them when they couldn't adjust in the playoffs. Mike Kelly was appointed head coach by Dave Branch and is such a good coach that he will never coach again in the OHL. |
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Post by specialteams on Jul 3, 2007 11:26:26 GMT -5
Man you hit the nail on the head with that post. Absolutely spot-on.
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Post by back2back on Jul 5, 2007 13:23:18 GMT -5
Didn't Kelly get runner-up honours for coach of the year last year. Also, for those who missed it, Kelly will not be going to Owen Sound as their GM. Owen Sound has now announced their new GM and its some guy for the UHL.
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Post by jaskratch on Jul 5, 2007 21:41:46 GMT -5
Didn't Kelly get runner-up honours for coach of the year last year. Also, for those who missed it, Kelly will not be going to Owen Sound as their GM. Owen Sound has now announced their new GM and its some guy for the UHL. He was runner up for coach of the year. A perfect example of a team winning in spite of its coach, not because of him. Anyone who attended an Ice Dogs practice last year would know immediately that Kelly had no clue what he was doing. |
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Post by afan on Jul 6, 2007 8:47:05 GMT -5
Legein has also prospered because of good coaching, performing under the tutelage of Greg Gilbert and Mike Kelly. Those coaches not only helped refine his skills, but taught him about commitment and having the right attitude.
quote from nhl.com
interesting to hear that a player that exploded this year, thinks Kelly was a good coach yet you "fans" seem not to think so.....
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Post by afan on Jul 6, 2007 8:48:21 GMT -5
Legein has also prospered because of good coaching, performing under the tutelage of Greg Gilbert and Mike Kelly. Those coaches not only helped refine his skills, but taught him about commitment and having the right attitude.
"I have had two different coaches in my junior career and they have taught me a variety of things," Legein said. "One thing I really took from them was the attitude and commitment toward becoming a pro-type hockey player."
quote from legein on nhl.com
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Post by rabiddog on Jul 6, 2007 12:02:48 GMT -5
Ok here is Legin being interviewed by the NHL after he is drafted and he says those things about M. Kelly....what did you expect him to say?  ? Really think about it !!!!! |
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